In the meantime, I was still being split between european films,
primarilybecause theItalianNeoRealism I saw on television when I was
fiveorsixyearsold, [RomaCitaApertta1945], [Paisà1946], [LadriDiBiciclette1948],
[SciusciàRagazzi1946],
and seeing the effect on my family, knowing that that has certain kinds of
truth to it. I didn't quite understand when I was fiveorsix, but I understood
that it was the realthing. But at the same time, we had extraordinary output
ofHollywood. I actuallythought, having gone through the process of
makingWho'sThatKnocking, not being verysuccesful, writing the scripts
ofMeanStreets over the period of fiveorsixyears, not being able to get it made.
I actuallythought, No, no, I was going to be a filmdirector, you know. Some of
the shortfilms I did atNYU was sort of comedies in a way. They were
veryjuvenile, veryadolescent, but I thought I could direct a genrefilm, I
thought I could directHollywoodfilms. There was that split in me, which
probablystillpersists. until today. But, there was no doubt that I would keep
being drawn towards the europeanCinema. And I think Cassavetes came out of
the european style. I reallybelieve
that. So, when he sawWho'sThatKnocking, he reallyencouraged me, and when I was
inLosAngeles, he encouraged me for. I was, then, able to directBoxcarBertha
forRogerCorman, and it was veryimportant to do that in twentyfourdays, because
What Corman gave us is the discipline of how to make a film. Twentyfourdays
[of] shooting, sixdays a week, six[AM] in the morning to ten[PM],
whatever it is. You design your shots. Rehearse your actors, get [save]
it on film. You have locomotives, that's your problem. Do thehardest shots
first. You know, learn how to make a picture, because all the other films we'd
been making, we did it when we had the time. Borrowed cameras and actors coming
in and out, because they had maybe threeorfourmonths in between shooting
scenes. It kind of was reallyimportant
for me to be able to do the exploitationfilm forCorman, and I thought that's
what I'd be doing. So, when I screenedBoxcarBertha forJohnCassavetes to get sort of his
blessing. After his office inUniversal. He was in his office, he asked me to
come in, so I went in, and he kind of smiled and looked and said, Marty, come
here, and he hugged me, and he held me. He looked in my eyes, and he said, You
spent a year of your life making shit. He said, you know, You
reallyreallyshould do kind of film you did inWho'sThatKnocking. It's a good
film. You should make that. Don't you have anything that you could pull
together that is in that line in a way, rather than this kind of thing? I
thought it was rather. It was good, because he did it with love, you know. A
couple of my friends, having seenBoxcar[Bertha], and Boxcar has its own. I have
an affection for the movie forBarbaraHershey, DavidCarradine, ** and everybody
[else]. It was a great experience, because I learned how to make a picture with
some sort of schedule and discipline.
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